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Message-Id: <1238662238.8530.5622.camel@twins>
Date:	Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:50:38 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
To:	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] perf_counter: fix update_userpage()

On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 11:24 +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:

> > --- linux-2.6.orig/include/linux/perf_counter.h
> > +++ linux-2.6/include/linux/perf_counter.h
> > @@ -160,10 +160,45 @@ struct perf_counter_hw_event {
> >  struct perf_counter_mmap_page {
> >  	__u32	version;		/* version number of this structure */
> >  	__u32	compat_version;		/* lowest version this is compat with */
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Bits needed to read the hw counters in user-space.
> > +	 *
> > +	 * The index and offset should be read atomically using the seqlock:
> > +	 *
> > +	 *   __u32 seq, index;
> > +	 *   __s64 offset;
> > +	 *
> > +	 * again:
> > +	 *   rmb();
> > +	 *   seq = pc->lock;
> > +	 *
> > +	 *   if (unlikely(seq & 1)) {
> > +	 *     cpu_relax();
> > +	 *     goto again;
> > +	 *   }
> > +	 *
> > +	 *   index = pc->index;
> > +	 *   offset = pc->offset;
> > +	 *
> > +	 *   rmb();
> > +	 *   if (pc->lock != seq)
> > +	 *     goto again;
> > +	 *
> > +	 * After this, index contains architecture specific counter index + 1,
> > +	 * so that 0 means unavailable, offset contains the value to be added
> > +	 * to the result of the raw timer read to obtain this counter's value.
> > +	 */
> >  	__u32	lock;			/* seqlock for synchronization */
> >  	__u32	index;			/* hardware counter identifier */
> >  	__s64	offset;			/* add to hardware counter value */
> 
> I think we can simplify this (in a follow-on patch).
> 
> It has occurred to me that we don't need to do all this on the
> userspace side, because we are necessarily reading and writing these
> fields on the same CPU.  If the reader and writer were on different
> CPUs, that would make no sense since they would be accessing different
> hardware counter registers.
> 
> That means that we don't need any CPU memory barriers on either side.
> All the kernel needs to do is to increment `lock' when it updates
> things, and the user side can be:
> 
> 	do {
> 		seq = pc->lock;
> 		index = pc->index;
> 		offset = pc->offset;
> 		barrier();
> 	} while (pc->lock != seq);
> 
> and all that's needed is a compiler barrier to stop the compiler from
> optimizing too much.

Can this work at all?

I mean, user-space could get preempted/rescheduled after we read the
mmap() data using that seqlock and before we actually did the read-pmc
bit.

In that case, the counter can have changed underneath us and we're
reading rubbish.

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