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Message-Id: <20090407172419.a5f318b9.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Date:	Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:24:19 +0900
From:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
To:	balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc:	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"lizf@...fujitsu.com" <lizf@...fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata.rao@...ibm.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Shared accounting for memory resource controller

On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:33:55 +0530
Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> * KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com> [2009-04-07 16:33:31]:
> 
> > On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:48:25 +0530
> > Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > * KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com> [2009-04-07 16:00:14]:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:07:22 +0530
> > > > Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi, All,
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is a request for input for the design of shared page accounting for
> > > > > the memory resource controller, here is what I have so far
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > In my first impression, I think simple counting is impossible.
> > > > IOW, "usage count" and "shared or not" is very different problem.
> > > > 
> > > > Assume a page and its page_cgroup.
> > > > 
> > > > Case 1)
> > > >   1. a page is mapped by process-X under group-A
> > > >   2. its mapped by process-Y in group-B (now, shared and charged under group-A)
> > > >   3. move process-X to group-B
> > > >   4. now the page is not shared.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > By shared I don't mean only between cgroups, it could be a page shared
> > > in the same cgroup
> > > 
> > Hmm, is it good information ?
> > 
> > Such kind of information can be calucated by
> > ==
> >    rss = 0;
> >    for_each_process_under_cgroup() {
> >        mm = tsk->mm
> >        rss += mm->anon_rss;
> >    }
> >    some_of_all_rss = rss;
> >    
> >    shared_ratio = mem_cgrou->rss *100 / some_of_all_rss.
> > ==
> >    if 100%, all anon memory are not shared.
> >
> 
> Why only anon? 

no serious intention.
Just because you wrote "expect the user to account all cached pages as shared" ;)

> This seems like a good idea, except when we have a page
> charged to a cgroup and the task that charged it has migrated, in that
> case sum_of_all_rss will be 0.
> 
Yes. But we don't move pages at task-move under expectation that moved
process will call fork() soon.
"task move" has its own problem, so ignoring it for now is a choice.
That kind of troubls can be treated when we fixes "task move".
(or fix "task move" first.)

Thanks,
-Kame

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