linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support

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Message-ID: <4A03E644.5000103@redhat.com>
Date:	Fri, 08 May 2009 10:59:00 +0300
From:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>
To:	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>
CC:	Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@...ell.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@...il.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support

Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> I think comparison is not entirely fair. You're using
> KVM_HC_VAPIC_POLL_IRQ ("null" hypercall) and the compiler optimizes that
> (on Intel) to only one register read:
>
>         nr = kvm_register_read(vcpu, VCPU_REGS_RAX);
>
> Whereas in a real hypercall for (say) PIO you would need the address,
> size, direction and data.
>   

Well, that's probably one of the reasons pio is slower, as the cpu has 
to set these up, and the kernel has to read them.

> Also for PIO/MMIO you're adding this unoptimized lookup to the 
> measurement:
>
>         pio_dev = vcpu_find_pio_dev(vcpu, port, size, !in);
>         if (pio_dev) {
>                 kernel_pio(pio_dev, vcpu, vcpu->arch.pio_data);
>                 complete_pio(vcpu); 
>                 return 1;
>         }
>   

Since there are only one or two elements in the list, I don't see how it 
could be optimized.

> Whereas for hypercall measurement you don't. I believe a fair comparison
> would be have a shared guest/host memory area where you store guest/host
> TSC values and then do, on guest:
>
> 	rdtscll(&shared_area->guest_tsc);
> 	pio/mmio/hypercall
> 	... back to host
> 	rdtscll(&shared_area->host_tsc);
>
> And then calculate the difference (minus guests TSC_OFFSET of course)?
>   

I don't understand why you want host tsc?  We're interested in 
round-trip latency, so you want guest tsc all the time.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

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