linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3.1415] Documentation: add documentation summary for rc-series and merge window

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906231246430.3240@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:49:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...waw.pl>
cc:	Jake Edge <jake@....net>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@...eros.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	"corbet@....net" <corbet@....net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk" <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"tshibata@...jp.nec.com" <tshibata@...jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3.1415] Documentation: add documentation summary for
 rc-series and merge window

On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Krzysztof Halasa wrote:

> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> writes:
> 
> > In fact, this whole discussion has shown one thing: people still think 
> > that "bug fix" somehow automatically means that it's appropriate after the 
> > merge window. That's simply not so. 
> 
> That's why i wrote: gain vs risk.

People really don't seem to be very good at the risk management part. They 
see the gain, they don't think about the risk.

Note: not all maintainers are bad about this. But it tends to be my 
biggest gripe after around -rc3 or so - people send stuff that is good, 
but that really has no real reason not to be delayed.

And as long as people talk about this in terms of "bugs", it's a problem.

It would be much better to talk about it in terms of "Does this _really_ 
have to hit the next release? Honestly? Even though we're supposed to be 
in the calming-down period?"

			Linus
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