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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:59:37 +0200
From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@....de>
To: Alberto Bertogli <albertito@...tiri.com.ar>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>,
Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@....de>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, dm-devel@...hat.com,
linux-raid@...r.kernel.org, agk@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] dm-csum: A new device mapper target that checks data integrity
Alberto Bertogli <albertito@...tiri.com.ar> writes:
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:34:17AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
>> On Tuesday May 26, albertito@...tiri.com.ar wrote:
>> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:33:01PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> > > > This scheme assumes writes to a single sector are atomic in the presence of
>> > > > normal crashes, which I'm not sure if it's something sane to assume in
>> > > > practise. If it's not, then the scheme can be modified to cope with that.
>> > >
>> > > What happens if you have multiple writes to the same sector? (assuming
>> > > you ment "before" above)
>> > >
>> > > - user writes to sector
>> > > - queue up write for M1 and data1
>> > > - M1 writes
>> > > - user writes to sector
>> > > - queue up writes for M2 and data2
>> > > - data1 is thrown away as data2 overwrites it
>> > > - M2 writes
>> > > - system crashes
>> > >
>> > > Now both M1 and M2 have a different checksum than the old data left on
>> > > disk.
>> > >
>> > > Can this happen?
>> >
>> > No, parallel writes that affect the same metadata sectors will not be allowed.
>> > At the moment there is a rough lock which does not allow simultaneous updates
>> > at all, I plan to make that more fine-grained in the future.
>>
>> Can I suggest a variation on the above which, I think, can cause a
>> problem.
>>
>> - user writes data-A' to sector-A (which currently contains data-A)
>> - queue up write for M1 and data-A'
>> - M1 is written correctly.
>> - power fails (before data-A' is written)
>> reboot
>> - read sector-A, find data-A which matches checksum on M2, so
>> success.
>>
>> So everything is working perfectly so far...
>>
>> - write sector-B (in same 62-sector range as sector-A).
>> - queue up write for M2 and data-B
>> - those writes complete
>> - read sector-A. find data-A, which doesn't match M1 (that has
>> data-A') and doesn't match M2 (which is mostly a copy of M1),
>> so the read fails.
>
> The thing is that M2 is not a copy of M1. When updating M2 for data-B, the
> procedure is not "copy M1, update sector-B's checksum, write" but "read M2,
> update sector-B's checksum, write". So as long as there are no writes to
> sector-A, M1 will have the incorrect checksum and M2 will have the correct
> one, regardless of writes to the other sectors.
>
> However, a troubling scenario based on yours could be:
>
> - M2 has the right checksum but is older, M1 has the wrong checksum but is
> newer.
> - user writes data-A'' to sector'A
> - queue up write for M2 (chosen because it is older)
> - M2 is written correctly
> - power fails before data-A'' is written
>
> At that point, data-A is written at sector-A, but both M1 and M2 have
> incorrect checksums for it.
>
> I'll try to come up with a better scheme that copes with this kind of
> scenarios and post an updated patch.
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Alberto
When the newer block has the wrong checksum you first need to correct
that. If you find a wrong checksum on read that is easy to do. But you
won't detect this on writes.
One solution I can think of is this:
- user writes to sector A
- compare checksum of sector A in M1 and M2
if checksums differ:
- read sector A and calculate checksum
- if M1 has the right checksum update M2
- wait
- write new checksum to M1
- wait
- write data to sector A
- wait
- write new checksum to M2
MfG
Goswin
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