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Message-ID: <20090710214407.GC30322@shareable.org>
Date:	Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:44:07 +0100
From:	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>
To:	tridge@...ba.org
Cc:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ozas.de>,
	OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@...l.parknet.co.jp>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, john.lanza@...ux.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>, corbet@....net,
	jcm@...masters.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES regressions

tridge@...ba.org wrote:
> Hi Jamie,
> 
>  > I think it's ok to break that compatibility if dualnames is off,
>  > because that's unfortunately the best available compromise.
> 
> You probably noticed this, but the patch that has been put in only
> changes the shortname setting when dualnames is off.

Yes, I noticed.

What I mean is if I do this, with your patch active:

    mount /dev/sdb -t vfat -o shortname=mixed

(or shortname=lower, or shortname=win95), then it's wrong to override
my shortname request "shortname=mixed", because my request means "I
need lower-case names to _appear_ lower-case on something with Windows
95-like behaviour.

When dual names cannot be created, if I specify any shortname= option
except shortname=winnt, I'd rather create a long name entry for
lower-case 8.3 names than a short name.

That's why dualnames off should change the *default* to
shortname=winnt, but not override an explicit shortname= option.

With dualnames on, the default should be shortname=mixed because that
has wider compatibility, and it's like the old Linux default when
creating names.

-- Jamie
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