linux-kernel - Re: linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval)

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Message-ID: <20090806120826.GC27773@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
Date:	Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:08:26 +0100
From:	Russell King <rmk+lkml@....linux.org.uk>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	Erik Mouw <mouw@...linux.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message
	to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval)

On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 01:31:04PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > Please fix your mailinglist.
> > > > 
> > > > You claimed that it is possible to crosspost between lkml and lakml,
> > > > yet the lakml does everything to prevent that -- even in case as
> > > > simple as reporting that regression that affects arm.
> > > > 
> > > > Please fix it.
> > 
> > It is indeed possible to cross post between lkml and lakml. The easiest
> > way to do that is to subscribe to the list and tell Mailman that you
> > don't want to receive any messages.
> 
> Actually I'm subscribed, but I still have far too many problems.
> 
> Due to the approval process, I don't think you'll ever have a spammer
> on lakml... can the mail size + #of people in to/cc list simply be
> increased to lkml levels?

The mail size is currently 100K, having been recently increased.  I
believe this is a sane limit.

The number of people is 15, which is probably a little low.  I've
already explained my personal position over that limit concerning
requests from you.  Erik's position may be different.

> > When I get such a Mailman message from a list I just shrug. The
> > moderator will take care eventually and if he rejects it I don't care.
> > Suggest you try to do the same, there are may more important things
> > than a message that doesn't get it to a list.
> 
> Well, I'd say that mailing list is pretty vital for Linux-style 
> development, and those rejects are simply far too frequent.

This is the first time in at least one month that anything from you has
been held according to the logs.  If I look at my mailbox which has
3400+ messages from the list since 1st June, you have sent 78 messages,
only one of which was held.

I think you need to develop a realistic sense of proportion.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:
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