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Date:	Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:12:51 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>, Ben Dooks <ben-linux@...ff.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.arm.linux.org.uk,
	David John <davidjon@...ontk.org>,
	Erik Mouw <mouw@...linux.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...waw.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@...r.kernel.org" to ARM
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> > 2. People talk to you on the ARM list because you don't seem to respond
> > on the vger arm list ?
> 
> You've totally missed the point.

You forgot the explanation that goes with the claim above ?


> When people have a problem with the existing lists, they talk to me and
> only me about it.  I'm *not* talking about normal list traffic.

Thats a pity because everyone else is.

> What I'm saying is that even if we did move over to vger, people would
> NOT talk to davem about problems.  Their first stop reaction would be
> to talk to me.

I see no supporting evidence

> > > Moving them to vger isn't going to change that.  The only effect that
> > > it'll have is make me frustrated because I'm then constantly bothered
> > > by people who can't do the sodding research to work out who they should
> > > be talking to.
> > 
> > Reality check. A mailing list name such as "linux-arm" is a tag attached
> > to an object, its a handle nothing more. Moving the object behind that
> > handle to vger as a vger linux-arm list doesn't change things in the way
> > you wish to pretend.
> 
> Correction - it does.  I can only assume that this is a continuation of
> your above misunderstanding.

Evidence, data points ? Or are you in pantomime mode ("oh yes it does, oh
no it doesn't")

> seem to have ample spare time to plot like this.

Still in pantomime mode "He's behind you".

Sorry Russell I really can't take you seriously any more

Alan
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