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Date:	Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:16:33 -0700
From:	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Ben Dooks <ben-linux@...ff.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.arm.linux.org.uk,
	David John <davidjon@...ontk.org>,
	Erik Mouw <mouw@...linux.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...waw.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@...r.kernel.org" to ARM
 sections

On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 10:47 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> These lists have _TWO_ admins.  Fact: Everyone only talks to me
> about problems with these lists.  Fact: they do not copy Erik.

Erik isn't listed in MAINTAINERS.  You are.
Erik doesn't post much to lkml.  You do.

> Humans are, at the end of the day, bone idle lazy creatures.

Which is why we invent tools to work for us.

Humans tend to reuse and improve the tools that work best.
Your ARM based mail tool has caused some to do more work
than they would like, so they would like to use a better
tool.

> I believe it's about jealousness and resentment.

You use high emotion words unnecessarily.

I believe it's about the very human desire to be lazy.

I believe very few care very much if vger.kernel.org or
arm.linux.org.uk is the list server.  I don't.  I just
want my email to get through.

And I still don't want to subscribe.

If you want to improve ARM, I think you and Erik should
improve your mail tool chest.  Perhaps copy the spam filter
mechanisms used by vger.  It's not a secret how it's done.

Reduce the probability of forwarding spam, open the list,
remove "(subscribers-only)" from the ARM MAINTAINERS entries
and I'd be good-to-go.

cheers, Joe

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