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Message-ID: <20090820051656.GB26265@balbir.in.ibm.com>
Date:	Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:46:56 +0530
From:	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
Cc:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	"Dike, Jeffrey G" <jeffrey.g.dike@...el.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	"nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp>,
	"lizf@...fujitsu.com" <lizf@...fujitsu.com>,
	"menage@...gle.com" <menage@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2] mm: do batched scans for mem_cgroup

* Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com> [2009-08-20 12:05:33]:

> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:13:47AM +0800, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:49:29 +0800
> > Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > For mem_cgroup, shrink_zone() may call shrink_list() with nr_to_scan=1,
> > > in which case shrink_list() _still_ calls isolate_pages() with the much
> > > larger SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX.  It effectively scales up the inactive list
> > > scan rate by up to 32 times.
> > > 
> > > For example, with 16k inactive pages and DEF_PRIORITY=12, (16k >> 12)=4.
> > > So when shrink_zone() expects to scan 4 pages in the active/inactive
> > > list, it will be scanned SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX=32 pages in effect.
> > > 
> > > The accesses to nr_saved_scan are not lock protected and so not 100%
> > > accurate, however we can tolerate small errors and the resulted small
> > > imbalanced scan rates between zones.
> > > 
> > > This batching won't blur up the cgroup limits, since it is driven by
> > > "pages reclaimed" rather than "pages scanned". When shrink_zone()
> > > decides to cancel (and save) one smallish scan, it may well be called
> > > again to accumulate up nr_saved_scan.
> > > 
> > > It could possibly be a problem for some tiny mem_cgroup (which may be
> > > _full_ scanned too much times in order to accumulate up nr_saved_scan).
> > > 
> > > CC: Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
> > > CC: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>
> > > CC: Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > CC: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
> > > CC: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
> > > ---
> > 
> > Hmm, how about this ? 
> > ==
> > Now, nr_saved_scan is tied to zone's LRU.
> > But, considering how vmscan works, it should be tied to reclaim_stat.
> > 
> > By this, memcg can make use of nr_saved_scan information seamlessly.
> 
> Good idea, full patch updated with your signed-off-by :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Fengguang
> ---
> mm: do batched scans for mem_cgroup
> 
> For mem_cgroup, shrink_zone() may call shrink_list() with nr_to_scan=1,
> in which case shrink_list() _still_ calls isolate_pages() with the much
> larger SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX.  It effectively scales up the inactive list
> scan rate by up to 32 times.
> 
> For example, with 16k inactive pages and DEF_PRIORITY=12, (16k >> 12)=4.
> So when shrink_zone() expects to scan 4 pages in the active/inactive
> list, it will be scanned SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX=32 pages in effect.
> 
> The accesses to nr_saved_scan are not lock protected and so not 100%
> accurate, however we can tolerate small errors and the resulted small
> imbalanced scan rates between zones.
> 
> This batching won't blur up the cgroup limits, since it is driven by
> "pages reclaimed" rather than "pages scanned". When shrink_zone()
> decides to cancel (and save) one smallish scan, it may well be called
> again to accumulate up nr_saved_scan.
> 
> It could possibly be a problem for some tiny mem_cgroup (which may be
> _full_ scanned too much times in order to accumulate up nr_saved_scan).
>

Looks good to me, how did you test it?

Acked-by: Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
 
 
-- 
	Balbir
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