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Message-Id: <1253719445.20648.57.camel@desktop>
Date:	Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:24:05 -0700
From:	Daniel Walker <dwalker@...o99.com>
To:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	Raistlin <raistlin@...ux.it>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, claudio@...dence.eu.com,
	michael@...dence.eu.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	tglx@...utronix.de, johan.eker@...csson.com, p.faure@...tech.ch,
	Fabio Checconi <fabio@...dalf.sssup.it>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@...il.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Tommaso Cucinotta <tommaso.cucinotta@...up.it>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_EDF scheduling class

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 18:12 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 09/23/2009 06:08 PM, Daniel Walker wrote:
> >
> >> Not true, you want to address the major issues first.  What's the point
> >> of fixing whitespace if the whole approach is rejected? if it has to
> >> undergo a rewrite? (not an opinion on EDF btw, just as an example)
> >>      
> > I'm not sure why your fixated on whitespace , but thinking about it more
> > I don't think it matters .. If you fix whitespace or major issues first,
> > it doesn't matter .. All the issues have to eventually get fixed .. Not
> > to mentioned that LKML is not something you could remotely control in
> > that way.
> >    
> 
> A technical issue is that if you rewrite the code the whitespace fix 
> becomes irrelevant.  But more important is that it's a distraction when 
> people are thinking about requirements and design.

It's not irrelevant, since a person doing that rewrite will be
conscience of whitespace during the re-write ..

The same with general coding style, if someone does a rewrite who has
been alerted to checkpatch problems they will likely use it themselves
leaving no need for someone else to comment on it.

> >>> In this case the author is not totally aware of how to submit this
> >>> code.. I don't think it's at all inappropriate to comment on that. His
> >>> next submission will likely be much cleaner and nicer. It may even speed
> >>> up the inclusion process since he'll be more easily able to submit the
> >>> code (with practice and comments from us).
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> Give people some credit.
> >>      
> > What do you mean?
> >
> >    
> 
> If he's able to write a scheduling class, he'll pick up the coding style 
> when it becomes relevant.

There's plenty of large projects that never get off the ground cause
people don't follow the coding style, or don't write clean code.. Take a
look at the staging tree there's plenty of large dirty projects in
there.

Daniel 

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