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Message-ID: <20091012132917.GA4900@x200>
Date:	Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:29:18 +0400
From:	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.32-rc4

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:29:50AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > Alexey Dobriyan (2):
> >       headers: remove sched.h from interrupt.h
> 
> This commit broke the -rc4 build in numerous ways on x86:
> 
>   drivers/pci/hotplug/cpqphp.h: In function ???wait_for_ctrl_irq???:
>   drivers/pci/hotplug/cpqphp.h:730: error: implicit declaration of function ???signal_pending???
> 
>   drivers/char/rtc.c: In function 'rtc_interrupt':
>   drivers/char/rtc.c:271: error: 'TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE' undeclared (first use in this function)
>   drivers/char/rtc.c:271: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> 
> (I'll send fixes for the build failures as followups to this mail.)
> 
> Beyond being buggy there's two workflow problems with the commit.
> 
> Firstly, the commit log concentrates on the m68k situation while in 
> reality more testing on x86 would have been much more important to the 
> end result. If we break m68k with a header cleanup it's far less of a 
> practical problem than if we break thousands of x86 boxes. I find this 
> kind of artificially inflated focus on cross-testing (without properly 
> weighting platforms) harmful.
> 
> Secondly, i'm wondering why the original mail to lkml:
> 
>   Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:09:06 +0400
>   From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>
>   To: torvalds@...ux-foundation.org
>   Subject: [PATCH] headers: remove sched.h from interrupt.h
>   Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
> 
> Wasnt Cc:-ed to the affected maintainers?

To whom? All 42 of them?

> As a result the patch wasnt 
> tested by any maintainer tree before it was sent to Linus. The change is 
> good but obviously needs to be done more carefully, there are a _lot_ of 
> hidden header dependencies in the kernel, especially related to sched.h.
> 
> We are doing regular header cleanup patches in -tip and have the 
> infrastructure to test them properly as well, so this change could have 
> been done via either the scheduler tree and the interrupt tree. We also 
> cross-test to all other architectures.

Me too.

This patch was tested on ~300 configs (allmodconfigs and defconfigs) _and_
randconfigs on i386 and x86_64. I'm sorry I don't have more compile time.

> Alexey, could you please Cc: affected maintainers in the future, so that 
> we can avoid such problems?

Probably.

The problem I have with -tip is that god knows what's in there,
so any header dependency removed might very well be unrelated to mainline.
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