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Message-ID: <1259187633.3585.31.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:20:33 -0800
From:	john stultz <johnstul@...ibm.com>
To:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Darren Hart <dvhltc@...ibm.com>,
	Clark Williams <williams@...hat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ibm.com>,
	Dinakar Guniguntala <dino@...ibm.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, cmm@...ibm.com
Subject: Re: -rt dbench scalabiltiy issue

On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 08:18 +0100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 06:16:17PM -0800, john stultz wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 10:06 +0100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > BTW. Have you tested like ext4, xfs and btrfs cases?  I don't think ext3
> > > is likely to see a huge amount of scalability work, and so it will be
> > > good to give an early heads up to the more active projects...
> > 
> > Yea, I need to give those a shot. I also generated the same numbers as
> > before with ext2 (all the raw numbers are in dbench-scalability dir):
> > 
> > http://sr71.net/~jstultz/dbench-scalability/graphs/ext2-scalability.png
> > 
> > Again, its similar to ext3, in that all the -rt variants are hitting
> > some contention issues. But I was a little surprised to see
> > 2.6.32-rc7-nick below 2.6.32-rc7 there, so generated perf data there as
> > well:
> > 
> > http://sr71.net/~jstultz/dbench-scalability/perflogs/2.6.32-rc7-nick.ext2.perflog
> 
> Ext2 doesn't look too bad in the -rt profiles. The block allocator is
> only taking up a couple of % of the spinlocks. Most of the contention
> is in path lookup, probably cwd dentry contention.
> 
> The -nick case probably also is hitting d_lock contention more. Don't
> know why it shows up more on ext2. The stat path should be nothing
> filesystem specific outside the regular path lookup, until path lookup
> is done and we found the inode.
> 
> If you're using acls or something on ext2 then lock free path walk
> might fail more often.

CC'ed Ted and Mingming as they might be interested:

Got ext4 data up:
http://sr71.net/~jstultz/dbench-scalability/graphs/ext4-scalability.png

Looks pretty similar to ext2. I'm also seeing path_get contention as
well with your patch on ext4 in the perflogs:
http://sr71.net/~jstultz/dbench-scalability/perflogs/2.6.32-rc7-nick.ext4.perflog


> Anyway, I think all these problems should largely go away when path
> walk fall back is improved.

Great, let me know when you have a rough shot at it ready for testing.

thanks
-john


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