linux-kernel - Re: [git pull] drm

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Message-ID: <4B219046.3080908@pathscale.com>
Date:	Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:20:22 -0500
From:	"C. Bergström" <cbergstrom@...hscale.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
CC:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, dri-devel@...ts.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Alan Cox wrote:
>   
>>> But not only is Fedora not following the rules, 
>>>       
>> You changed the rules. You require a Signed-off-by:. Fedora can no more
>> add a signed off by than you can. It's not their code nor Red Hat's code
>> any more than they "own" the kernel because they pay someone to work on
>> it.
>>     
>
> You're avoiding the point: they are shipping it, they are paying for (at 
> least some) development, and they seem to not even want to face the issue.
>
> Sign-offs aren't some new feature that took Red Hat people by surprise. 
> The "get it merged upstream first" didn't change in any way from it: it 
> just codified existing practice - of _course_ everybody expects copyrights 
> to be honored and clear.
>
>   
>> It's really simple: if you want to merge it *you* pull it and sign it off.
>> If you aren't prepared to do that then ask why Fedora should, its not
>> their code either.
>>     
>
> I'm not shipping it. They are. That's the difference.
>
> I realize that you have some emotional attachments to Red Hat, but ask 
> yourself (and answer honestly): what would you think if some random other 
> distro was packaging tens of thousands of lines of kernel code and not 
> apparently working at trying to get them upstream?
>
> Dave claims it's only been going on for a few months, but quite frankly, 
> we all know better. The nouveau kernel modules have been shipped for a lot 
> longer than just F12.
>
> And it's possible that other distros are doing the same thing. I happen to 
> know that Fedora does it (and has been doing it for at least a year), 
> because I happen to have an Intel development machine that runs Fedora and 
> was shipped by Intel with an nVidia card (and has a power supply that 
> craps out if you don't use several hundred watts of power, so I can't 
> change it to something more power-efficient - seriously).
>   
Thanks for the rather lengthly explanation, but in case you missed what 
people are trying to say here..

With all due respect Linus..

"patches welcome"

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