linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] [PATCH 7/7] Ftrace plugin for Uprobes

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Message-ID: <4B4CF803.1020602@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:30:27 -0500
From:	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...hat.com>
To:	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>
CC:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>,
	utrace-devel <utrace-devel@...hat.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@...ibm.com>,
	Maneesh Soni <maneesh@...ibm.com>,
	Mark Wielaard <mjw@...hat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 7/7] Ftrace plugin for Uprobes

Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> Hi -
> 
>>> As you might expect, in systemtap we've had to figure out this area
>>> some time ago.  We use another utrace consumer called "task finder" [...]
>>
>> So, could you tell us how the task-finder works and is implemented?
> 
> The code may be found at runtime/task_finder* in the systemtap sources.
> There is a simple interest-registration structure/API that identifies
> processes / shared libraries of interest, and a set of callbacks to be
> invoked when said processes/shared libraries are mapped or unmapped.
> 
> It is implemented in terms of utrace callbacks for process/thread
> lifetime monitoring, and utrace syscall callbacks for tracking shared
> library segments being mapped and unmapped.
> 
> http://sourceware.org/git/?p=systemtap.git;a=tree;f=runtime

Nice! so we can set a probe by the relative address in the library
segments.

>> I think we'd better clarify what functions are required for uprobes
>> and pmu, and I think we may be able to re-implement improved pmu on
>> utrace.
> 
> I don't see any collision between pmu / perf / utrace, so nothing is
> really "required" for them or simple usage of uprobes.  If you wish to
> track dynamic process/shared-library lifetimes, then you need extra
> code somewhere to respond to those changes.

And that code we can find in runtime/task_finder*, right? :-)

>  Layering this dynamic
> capability seems like the natural way to go, and is easily done with
> utrace and/or tracepoints.

Sure, and I think that will allow us to use uprobe events as
trace-events, because we can set probes before executing programs. :-)

Thank you!


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu

Software Engineer
Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc.
Software Solutions Division

e-mail: mhiramat@...hat.com

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