Date:	Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:21:44 +0800
From:	zhou peng <ailvpeng25@...il.com>
To:	Américo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>
Cc:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>, sds@...ho.nsa.gov,
	jra@...ba.org, linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-next@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: About ACL for IPC Object

I have tested posix sem,posix shm and posix msg queue for ACL on
fedora 12 with kernel 2.6.32.

Posix sem and posix shm using tmpfs monted by default support ACL well .
Posix msg queue use mqueue fs mounted by manual but it seem not
surpoort ACL well. It failed for setting named ACL item:
{
 $ mkdir /dev/mqueue
 $ mount -o rw, acl -t mqueue none /dev/mqueue
 $cd /dev/mqueue
 "/mq" msg queue object created and used by processes properly

 $getfacl mq
   #file: mq
   #owner:root
   #group:root
   user:rw-
   group::---
   other::---

 $setfacl -m u:testuser:rw mq                                   /* failed here*/
 $setfacl: mq :Operation not supported
 but mqueue fs works well for setting owner user and owner group items.
}

I am not sure whether mqueue don't support acl or I make mistake.

2010/1/22 Américo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>:
> (Top-posting fixed.)
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:15 PM, zhou peng <ailvpeng25@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2010/1/21 Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>:
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 07:02:27PM -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>>>> zhou peng wrote:
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> > There are ACL in file system, but why there are no ACL implementation
>>>> > in IPC object, eg. shm, message queue, FIFO?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Most people haven't noticed that IPC objects are even there, much less
>>>> that they have mode bits and not ACLs. Even when we were doing security
>>>> evaluations on Unix boxes in the 1990's they were considered insufficiently
>>>> interesting to justify the additional work to do ACLs.
>>>>
>>>> If you really want ACLs on IPC objects it would make a dandy little
>>>> project for a summer. I would be happy to review patches.
>>
>> Thanks. It's interesting to add ACL over IPC objects. I want to have a try.
>>
>>>
>>> Or use the posix IPC mechanisms.  The Posix shared memory has ACL by
>>> using tmpfs as the backing store, and we could add similar support to
>>> Posix messages queues as they are also backed by a normal filesystem.
>>
>> Christoph Hellwig, This way may be convinent. Could you give some
>> detailed message. :)
>> I only find /proc/ipc/shm file which contain the info of shm objs,and
>> tmpfs on /dev/shm which is empty.
>>
>>>
>>> Adding this support to the old SYSV IPC mechanisms would be much harder
>>> as they do not fit into the file backed model we use everywhere else at
>>> all.
>>
>> Just like file objects, the mode bits are implment over IPC objects
>> without file backed, so I think adding ACL support to IPC objects may
>> be somewhat reasonable :)
>>
>> Thank you all for so many solutions.
>>
>> I want to control some IPC object (shm, msg queue, semphore) can be
>> accessed by which named user or named group just like file objects ACL
>> do.
>>
>> I studied the solution you all referred, The SELinux is powerful but
>> may be somewhat complicated. And I am confused with Christoph
>> Hellwig‘s solution using tmpfs.
>
> Well, only posix semphores and posix share memory use tmpfs, I think,
> posix msg queues use "mqueue" instead.
>



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