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Message-Id: <1267800399.6681.67.camel@marge.simson.net>
Date:	Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:46:39 +0100
From:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk, mingo@...e.hu, skeggsb@...il.com,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, airlied@...il.com, airlied@...ux.ie,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org,
	dri-devel@...ts.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm request 3

On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 06:37 -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:38:34 +0000
> 
> >> The conclusion is crystal clear, breaking an ABI via a "flag day" 
> >> cleanup/feature/etc is:
> > 
> > Ingo go read the staging Kconfig. It's crystal clear, and lots of vendor
> > junk that is in there being cleaned up it would be *insane* to keep their
> > old APIs
> > 
> > See there's a bigger offence than breaking an ABI - its called not RTFM.
> 
> All of this RTFM and what directory the noveau driver is sitting in is
> entirely irrelevant Alan.
> 
> If it effects such a large number of people, which this noveau thing
> does, it's entirely relevant to everyone.  And the way it's breaking
> and making kernel development difficult for so many people matters to
> us.
> 
> It's about the tester base, and this breakage shrinks the tester base
> considerably.
> 
> Or do you want the kernel tested by less people?

On the bright side, all this hubbub sends a very positive message to the
noveau development crew.  Folks, your work is important.  I'd be proud
as a peacock :)

	-Mike

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