linux-kernel - Re: Upstream first policy

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Message-ID: <20100309072938.GA6137@elte.hu>
Date:	Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:29:38 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@...artin.ca>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Upstream first policy

* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Alan Cox wrote:
> > 
> > man restorecond
> 
> I know. I also sometimes sit through minutes of "let's relabel the system, 
> because you've booted a kernel without selinux support".

I've had selinux relabeling wait times of an hour or two too, on a 
sufficiently large filesystem.

I think this hurts security far more than anything else, because it causes 
people to actually _turn off the whole thing_ - so we will have less and less 
security in the end.

( To use the obligatory fire door analogy: we should prefer a one inch thick 
  fire door that opens and closes fully automated to a five inches thick fire 
  door that people keep always-open with a chair. )

	Ingo
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