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Message-ID: <20100316094758.GH7961@elte.hu>
Date:	Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:47:59 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Sheng Yang <sheng@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>,
	oerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
	Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@...hat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@...hat.com>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@...hat.com>, zhiteng.huang@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Enhance perf to collect KVM guest os statistics from
 host side


* Zhang, Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 15:48 +0800, Zhang, Yanmin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 07:41 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > On 03/16/2010 07:27 AM, Zhang, Yanmin wrote:
> > > > From: Zhang, Yanmin<yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>
> > > >
> > > > Based on the discussion in KVM community, I worked out the patch to support
> > > > perf to collect guest os statistics from host side. This patch is implemented
> > > > with Ingo, Peter and some other guys' kind help. Yang Sheng pointed out a
> > > > critical bug and provided good suggestions with other guys. I really appreciate
> > > > their kind help.
> > > >
> > > > The patch adds new subcommand kvm to perf.
> > > >
> > > >    perf kvm top
> > > >    perf kvm record
> > > >    perf kvm report
> > > >    perf kvm diff
> > > >
> > > > The new perf could profile guest os kernel except guest os user space, but it
> > > > could summarize guest os user space utilization per guest os.
> > > >
> > > > Below are some examples.
> > > > 1) perf kvm top
> > > > [root@...-ne01 norm]# perf kvm --host --guest --guestkallsyms=/home/ymzhang/guest/kallsyms
> > > > --guestmodules=/home/ymzhang/guest/modules top
> > > >
> > > >    
> > > 
> > Thanks for your kind comments.
> > 
> > > Excellent, support for guest kernel != host kernel is critical (I can't 
> > > remember the last time I ran same kernels).
> > > 
> > > How would we support multiple guests with different kernels?
> > With the patch, 'perf kvm report --sort pid" could show
> > summary statistics for all guest os instances. Then, use
> > parameter --pid of 'perf kvm record' to collect single problematic instance data.
> Sorry. I found currently --pid isn't process but a thread (main thread).
> 
> Ingo,
> 
> Is it possible to support a new parameter or extend --inherit, so 'perf 
> record' and 'perf top' could collect data on all threads of a process when 
> the process is running?
> 
> If not, I need add a new ugly parameter which is similar to --pid to filter 
> out process data in userspace.

Yeah. For maximum utility i'd suggest to extend --pid to include this, and 
introduce --tid for the previous, limited-to-a-single-task functionality.

Most users would expect --pid to work like a 'late attach' - i.e. to work like 
strace -f or like a gdb attach.

	Ingo
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