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Date:	Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:12:05 +0200
From:	Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Paul@...p1.linux-foundation.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, felipe.balbi@...ia.com,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)

On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:40:02 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:

> Same for firefox, you can teach it to not render animated gifs and run
> javascript for invisible tabs, and once the screen-saver kicks in,
> nothing is visible (and with X telling apps their window is visible or
> not it knows), so it should go idle all of its own.
> 
> Fix the friggin apps, don't kludge with freezing.

Of course programs should be as smart as possible. But that is an
orthogonal problem.

Suppose firefox were fixed. It still needs to fetch my rss feeds every
minute, because I'm sad if it doesn't. It just can't be fixed at the
application level.

Cheers,
Flo
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