linux-kernel - Re: [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration

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Message-ID: <768161.83147.qm@web180312.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Brownell <david-b@...bell.net>
To:	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	tytso@....edu, Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@...ia.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration



--- On Mon, 6/7/10, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> So what's up with this Binder stuff, from what I can see
> its just
> yet-another-CORBA. Why does it need a kernel part at all,
> can't you
> simply run with a user-space ORB instead?
> 
> I really don't get why people keep re-inventing CORBA,


That made me laugh.  Do you realize that one
of the earliest objections to CORBA was "why do
people keep re-inventing RPC" ...  :)

(Simple answer:  the existing stuff didn't solve
enough of the right problems ... and it was easier
(in a political sense) to come up with something
new than to try fixing DCE or ONC (or whatever).
Similar answers may still apply ... last I looked
at CORBA, it didn't standardize desktop integration
(or cell-phone equivalents), and the pure user-space
versions suffered slowdowns when looking up object
bindings.


> there's some really nice (free) ORBs out there,

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