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Message-Id: <889B6B31-A1F0-438D-B782-DBB855912854@sandeen.net>
Date:	Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:10:03 -0500
From:	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...deen.net>
To:	Jeffrey Merkey <jeffmerkey@...il.com>
Cc:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: EXT3 File System Corruption 2.6.34


On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Jeffrey Merkey <jeffmerkey@...il.com> wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jeffrey Merkey <jeffmerkey@...il.com>
> Date: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: EXT3 File System Corruption 2.6.34
> To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...deen.net>
>
>
> REPLY TO ALL
>
> CONFIG_EXT3_DEFAULTS_TO_ORDERED is not set
>
> Whether set this way or not, should not see corruption.

Here you are mistaken.  Mount with data=ordered and see.  Writeback  
can expose stale data.

-Eric

> I am seeing
> data corruption including the following:
>
> /boot/grub/grub.conf getting filled with binary chars
> /root/.viminfo filled with strange text chars (not binary)
> .o files filled with the same garbage.
>
> Looks like EXT3 meta data -- maybe some blocks getting transposed  
> somewhere?
>
> I will recreate the data patterns I see during corruption and post
> here.  They are consitent with some sort of fill pattern -- at least
> what I see in
> viminfo is.
>
> In the case of corrupted .o files, the endian headers are missing and
> trashed in the OBJ section headers -- chances are the same kind of
> garbage.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>>> Still seeing file system corruption after journal recovery in EXT3.
>>> It's easy to reproduce, though the symptoms vary.  One way is to
>>> rebuild a program and while the program is being compiled just shut
>>> off power to the system by pulling the plug.  I am seeing the
>>> /root/.viminfo file trashed after recovery if Vim was active during
>>> poweroff.  I am also seeing object modules getting built which the  
>>> LD
>>> linker claims are "invalid" following a recovery event.  I suspect a
>>> bug in the buffer cache since deleting the file still causes the old
>>> data to be returned from buffer cache even when the sectors are
>>> overwritten, but both are interrelated.  Seems in some way related  
>>> to
>>> EXT3 recovery which results in the buffer cache returning old  
>>> sectors
>>> and junk.
>>>
>>> Not hard to reproduce, but the symptoms are always a little  
>>> different
>>> but the /root/.viminfo file getting nuked seems a common affect of
>>> this bug.
>>
>> "file system corruption" usually means corrupted metadata, but I  
>> guess
>> here you mean file corruption, i.e. corrupted data.
>>
>> If you have buffered data in the cache, it will be lost when you pull
>> the plug.  If your userspace doesn't sync it, this is expected.   
>> But it's
>> not clear to me what you're seeing.
>>
>> I'm also not clear on what you mean about deleting the file and  
>> having old
>> data returned.  Maybe a little cut and paste from the screen would  
>> help
>> explain what you see.
>>
>> I'd also check CONFIG_EXT3_DEFAULTS_TO_ORDERED and be sure you're
>> using data=ordered mode by default.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>>
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