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Message-ID: <20100709191145.GG1669@ucw.cz>
Date:	Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:11:46 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>
Cc:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>,
	tytso@....edu, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@...ia.com>,
	Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: HTC Dream drivers was Re: [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android
 integration

Hi!


> > So for people who really care about running a mainline kernel on their
> > android device doing that part first on a generic ARM board in qemu
> > might be much better first step work.
> 
> > On the other hand I've heard
> > that various hardware vendors or parties closed to them are rather
> > annoyed by their drivers beeing stuck in the android tree - but that
> > can be easily solved by getting removing the suspend blockers (at least
> > temporarily), cleaning up a few bits here and there and getting them in.
> 
> This continues to baffle me.  If we (Google) are such a headache, why
> not just route around us.  The drivers we've written are GPLv2, the

Well, we did route around you, and that's why the HTC Dream drivers
are in
staging.

Unfortunately...

> source is out there for anyone who wants it, etc.  The drivers other
> people have written we have no control over at all. From my point of
> view it'd be an annoyance if somebody took the code we wrote, modified
> it heavily, and pushed it upstream, but fundamentally I can't stop
> that from happening other than by pushing it upstream myself, first.

...you were calling bloody murder when we tried to name them right way
-- thats board_dream, not board_trout -- and AFAIK you still did not
switch to actually using those drivers so that diffs would grow
smaller...

And no, it is not 'just arm architecture #1536'; due to strange
baseband/cpu split in msm drivers end up quite big&complex...

									Pavel
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