linux-kernel - Re: Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three

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Message-ID: <AANLkTinNxZoMab=tG9KXJ9n_nxB1dXHkfk-7xUMWXACW@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:48:48 -0700
From:	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>
To:	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>
Cc:	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, david@...g.hm,
	linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	arve@...roid.com, mjg59@...f.ucam.org, pavel@....cz,
	florian@...kler.org, rjw@...k.pl, stern@...land.harvard.edu,
	peterz@...radead.org, tglx@...utronix.de, menage@...gle.com,
	david-b@...bell.net, James.Bottomley@...e.de, arjan@...radead.org,
	swmike@....pp.se, galibert@...ox.com, dipankar@...ibm.com
Subject: Re: Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Felipe Contreras
<felipe.contreras@...il.com> wrote:
>
> Not Ubuntu, not Fedora, not MeeGo, not anyone with a typical
> user-space seems to be having this problem. I can argue to you that
> this problem can be solved in easier ways, but instead I will argue
> that perhaps we should wait for somebody besides Android to complain
> about it before providing a "solution". Because after all, what good
> is a "solution" provided by the kernel, if the user-space is not going
> to use it, ever.

I'm curious, when does Android count as a user of the kernel?  I
gather that volume of sales or users doesn't count.  Do we have to
include some percentage of "desktop" Linux?

If we're an undesirable second-class citizen, why do people care that
"android is forking the kernel"?

I guess I don't understand,

Brian
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