linux-kernel - Re: [linux-pm] Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three

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Message-ID: <20100812195224.GA6370@comet.dominikbrodowski.net>
Date:	Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:52:24 +0200
From:	Dominik Brodowski <linux@...inikbrodowski.net>
To:	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>
Cc:	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>, david@...g.hm,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, peterz@...radead.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, James.Bottomley@...e.de,
	galibert@...ox.com, florian@...kler.org, menage@...gle.com,
	swmike@....pp.se, linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, tglx@...utronix.de,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, arjan@...radead.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread,
 take three

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:48:48PM -0700, Brian Swetland wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Felipe Contreras
> <felipe.contreras@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not Ubuntu, not Fedora, not MeeGo, not anyone with a typical
> > user-space seems to be having this problem. I can argue to you that
> > this problem can be solved in easier ways, but instead I will argue
> > that perhaps we should wait for somebody besides Android to complain
> > about it before providing a "solution". Because after all, what good
> > is a "solution" provided by the kernel, if the user-space is not going
> > to use it, ever.
> 
> I'm curious, when does Android count as a user of the kernel?  I
> gather that volume of sales or users doesn't count.  Do we have to
> include some percentage of "desktop" Linux?
> 
> If we're an undesirable second-class citizen, why do people care that
> "android is forking the kernel"?
> 
> I guess I don't understand,

I guess I don't, either -- there are some parts of the kernel used by only a
handful of users... and here we speak about million users...

Best,
	Dominik
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