linux-kernel - Re: Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three

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Message-ID: <20100814075923.GC27430@elf.ucw.cz>
Date:	Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:59:24 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>
Cc:	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org>,
	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>, Ted Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	david@...g.hm, linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, arve@...roid.com,
	mjg59@...f.ucam.org, florian@...kler.org, rjw@...k.pl,
	peterz@...radead.org, tglx@...utronix.de, menage@...gle.com,
	david-b@...bell.net, James.Bottomley@...e.de, arjan@...radead.org,
	swmike@....pp.se, galibert@...ox.com, dipankar@...ibm.com
Subject: Re: Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three

Hi!

> >> Question though -- has every feature ever added to the kernel been a
> >> feature that there's pre-existing usage of?  Seems like a chicken and
> >> egg problem.  Also, some people seem to think there's value in being
> >> able to build kernels "out of the box" that work with the Android
> >> userspace -- given that there are a few devices out there that have
> >> that userspace on 'em.
> >
> > We generally try to merge new features like this along with code that
> > uses said feature, but there are always exceptions.  We've merged code
> > one release or more before the new code gets used for example, which is
> > fine IMO.  What we don't want to see is some new drop of code added and
> > abandoned, but you already knew that.
> 
> If Android guys provided a bare minimal Debian system with suspend
> blockers that people can take a look at and try, I think that would be
> a good proof of concept. And a bare minimum to get the patches merged.

Yes, that would certainly help.

I guess this is the major point -- as suspend blockers seem very
suitable for android, they don't seem suitable for anyone else...

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