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Message-ID: <1282148296.3035.49.camel@mulgrave.site>
Date:	Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:18:16 -0500
From:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>
To:	Chetan Loke <chetanloke@...il.com>
Cc:	Chetan Loke <generationgnu@...oo.com>,
	Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@...b.net>,
	scst-devel <scst-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010...

On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 12:04 -0400, Chetan Loke wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:11 AM, James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley@...e.de> wrote:
> > The decision hasn't been taken to merge LIO, but based on what happened
> > at the summit, I think it's the most viable candidate and will likely be
> > merged by 2.6.37
> >
> 
> During the open panel, facebook guys and others were tooting that
> start-ups thrive because they can hack linux. Well there are quite a
> few start-ups that use scst too for creating target appliances.
> Has anyone even bothered to glance the scst mailing list to see if
> that community is dead or alive?
> 
> I for one use scst to create synthetic work-loads and test 200+ VM
> nodes in an ESX cluster. Anyone who has worked on a SAN OS will
> appreciate the simplicity of SCST. And if folks still can't understand
> the SCST code(after reading the README) then they are still welcome to
> send an email on SCST. Would you like to make your FC stack go faster,
> well please drop us an email on SCST and we will try our best to
> further optimize the FC driver.
> 
> I know folks who don't understand simple DMA bus traces, FC wire
> traces and yet they have the power to influence decisions.
> 
> James you are an expert but not everyone is. This is not a venting
> session but even folks who are new to target architecture find it easy
> to hack SCST.

But that's not really relevant, is it?  I would expect that whatever I
do, even keeping both out of tree, the communities around the solutions
would still exist and be vibrant, since they're out of tree now, nothing
will have changed.

James


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