linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] tracing: Cleanup the convoluted softirq tracepoints

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Message-ID: <1287529515.16971.538.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
Date:	Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:05:15 -0400
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Koki Sanagi <sanagi.koki@...fujitsu.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	nhorman@...driver.com, scott.a.mcmillan@...el.com,
	laijs@...fujitsu.com, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	eric.dumazet@...il.com, kaneshige.kenji@...fujitsu.com,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, izumi.taku@...fujitsu.com,
	kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@...el.com>, Jason Baron <jbaron@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing: Cleanup the convoluted softirq tracepoints

On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 15:49 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 10/19/2010 03:41 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> >>
> >> OK, first of all, there are some serious WTFs here:
> >>
> >> # define JUMP_LABEL_INITIAL_NOP ".byte 0xe9 \n\t .long 0\n\t"
> >>
> >> A jump instruction is one of the worst possible NOPs.  Why are we doing
> >> this?
> > 
> > This code is dynamically patched at boot time (and module load time) with a
> > better nop, just like the function tracer does.
> > 
> 
> That's just ridiculous... start out with something sane and you at least
> have the chance of not having to patch it.

Yep we can fix this. Jason?



> > So if we were executing tracepoints in a maze of jumps, we could argue that
> > instruction throughput is the most important there. However, if we expect the
> > common case to be surrounded by some non-ALU instructions, latency tends to
> > become the most important criterion.
> > 
> > But I feel I might be missing something important that distinguish "jcc" from
> > "jmp".
> 
> NOP has a latency of 0.5-1.0 cycle/insns, *but has no consumers*.
> 
> JMP/Jcc does have a consumer -- the IP -- and actually measuring shows
> that it is much, much worse than NOP and other dummy instructions.

But how does JMP vs Jcc compare?

-- Steve


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