linux-kernel - Re: [RFC][PATCH 18/22] sched: add reclaiming logic to -deadline tasks

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Message-ID: <1289856888.7033.101.camel@Palantir>
Date:	Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:34:48 +0100
From:	Raistlin <raistlin@...ux.it>
To:	"James H. Anderson" <anderson@...unc.edu>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 18/22] sched: add reclaiming logic to -deadline
 tasks

On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 13:37 -0500, James H. Anderson wrote:
> Sorry for the delayed response... I think I must have inadvertently 
> deleted this
>
NP. Hope it's not my fault, due to GPG and stuff... :-)

> If you're talking about our most recent "stochastic" paper, it is about 
> supporting
> soft real-time task systems on a multiprocessor where resource 
> reservations are
> used.  
>
Actually, we were talking about the previous one, which (if I got it
well) didn't include reservations, and that's why we were wondering how
to integrate it in the scheduler (which _is_ reservation based).

Now that this one is out, going for it simply solves all our issues,
also considering that it says something very similar to what we (Pisa
guys :-D) are familiar with, since we investigated this stuff too
sometime ago (actually, Luca did).

> However, such methods would be easy to incorporate.  
>
I think it really should be... Actually, I'm under the impression that
we don't even need variance/std-dev of the execution time to be part of
the interface, do we?

> I gathered there was
> some confusion about whether we were using resource reservations.  Such
> reservations are actually crucial for our analysis as they allow 
> independence to be assumed across tasks.
>
Yes, as I said, this was because we were looking at first paper. Now we
got it, thanks a lot for clarifying! :-)

> I hope this helps.
> 
A lot, thanks again.

Dario

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