Message-id: <000101cbdffb$e1844b00$a48ce100$%szyprowski@samsung.com>
Date:	Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:51:55 +0100
From:	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>
To:	'Arnd Bergmann' <arnd@...db.de>
Cc:	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	linux-samsung-soc@...r.kernel.org, linux-media@...r.kernel.org,
	Tomasz Stanislawski <t.stanislaws@...sung.com>,
	k.debski@...sung.com, kgene.kim@...sung.com,
	kyungmin.park@...sung.com,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@...sung.com>,
	Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@...sung.com>,
	'´ëÀαâ' <inki.dae@...sung.com>,
	'°­¹Î±Ô' <mk7.kang@...sung.com>,
	'KyongHo Cho' <pullip.cho@...sung.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: RE: [PATCH 3/7] ARM: Samsung: update/rewrite Samsung SYSMMU (IOMMU)
 driver

Hello,

On Friday, March 11, 2011 3:08 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> On Friday 11 March 2011, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> > > The iommu API is not really meant to be KVM specific, it's just that the
> > > in-tree users are basically limited to KVM at the moment. Another user that
> > > is coming up soon is the vmio device driver that can be used to transparently
> > > pass devices to user space. The idea behind the IOMMU API is that you can
> > > map arbitrary bus addresses to physical memory addresses, but it does not
> > > deal with allocating the bus addresses or providing buffer management such
> > > as cache flushes.
> >
> > Yea, I've noticed this and this basically what we expect from iommu driver.
> > However the iommu.h API requires a separate call to map each single memory page.
> > This is quite ineffective approach and imho the API need to be extended to allow
> > mapping of the arbitrary set of pages.
> 
> We can always discuss extensions to the existing infrastructure, adding
> an interface for mapping an array of page pointers in the iommu API
> sounds like a good idea.

We will investigate this API further. From the first sight it looks it won't take
much work to port/rewrite our driver to fit into iommu.h API.

> I also think that we should not really have separate iommu and dma-mapping
> interfaces, but rather have a portable way to define an iommu so that it
> can be used through the dma-mapping interfaces. I'm not asking you to
> do that as a prerequisite to merging your driver, but it may be good to
> keep in mind that the current situation is still lacking and that any
> suggestion for improving this as part of your work to support the
> samsung IOMMU is welcome.

Well creating a portable iommu framework and merging it with dma-mapping interface
looks like a much harder (and time consuming) task. There is definitely a need for
it. I hope that it can be developed incrementally starting from the current iommu.h
and dma-mapping.h interfaces. Please note that there might be some subtle differences
in the hardware that such framework must be aware. The first obvious one is the
hardware design. Some platform has central iommu unit, other (like Samsung Exynos4)
has a separate iommu unit per each device driver (this is still a simplification,
because a video codec device has 2 memory interfaces and 2 iommu units). Currently
I probably have not enough knowledge to predict the other possible issues that need
to be taken into account in the portable and generic iommu/dma-mapping frame-work.

> Note that the ARM implementation of the dma-mapping.h interface currently
> does not support IOMMUs, but that could be changed by wrapping it
> using the include/asm-generic/dma-mapping-common.h infrastructure.

ARM dma-mapping framework also requires some additional research for better DMA
support (there are still issues with multiple mappings to be resolved).

Best regards
--
Marek Szyprowski
Samsung Poland R&D Center


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