Message-ID: <20110505063012.GA11529@tiehlicka.suse.cz>
Date:	Thu, 5 May 2011 08:30:12 +0200
From:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
To:	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH resend] mm: get rid of CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP || CONFIG_IA64

On Wed 04-05-11 10:28:36, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2011, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > 
> > This case is obscure enough already because we are using VM_GROWSUP to
> > declare expand_stack_upwards in include/linux/mm.h
> 
> Ah yes, I didn't notice that it was already done that way there
> (closer to the definitions of VM_GROWSUP so not as bad).
> 
> > while definition is guarded by CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP||CONFIG_IA64. 
> > What the patch does is just "make it consistent" thing. I think we
> > should at least use CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP||CONFIG_IA64 at both places if
> > you do not like VM_GROWSUP misuse.
> 
> If it's worth changing anything, yes, that would be better.

I have looked into the history again and the current VM_GROWSUP usage
for the CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP||CONFIG_IA64 has been introduced by
commit 8ca3eb08097f6839b2206e2242db4179aee3cfb3
Author: Luck, Tony <tony.luck@...el.com>
Date:   Tue Aug 24 11:44:18 2010 -0700

    guard page for stacks that grow upwards
    
    pa-risc and ia64 have stacks that grow upwards. Check that
    they do not run into other mappings. By making VM_GROWSUP
    0x0 on architectures that do not ever use it, we can avoid
    some unpleasant #ifdefs in check_stack_guard_page().
    
    Signed-off-by: Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>
    Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>

So I think the flag should be used that way. If we ever going to add a
new architecture like IA64 which uses both ways of expanding we should
make it easier by minimizing the places which have to be examined.

> > > Not a nack: others may well disagree with me.
> > > 
> > > And, though I didn't find time to comment on your later "symmetrical"
> > > patch before it went into mmotm, I didn't see how renaming expand_downwards
> > > and expand_upwards to expand_stack_downwards and expand_stack_upwards was
> > > helpful either - needless change, and you end up using expand_stack_upwards
> > > on something which is not (what we usually call) the stack.
> > 
> > OK, I see your point. expand_stack_upwards in ia64_do_page_fault can be
> > confusing as well. Maybe if we stick with the original expand_upwards
> > and just make expand_downwards symmetrical without renameing to
> > "_stack_" like the patch does? I can rework that patch if there is an
> > interest. I would like to have it symmetrical, though, because the
> > original code was rather confusing.
> 
> Yes, what I suggested before was an expand_upwards, an expand_downwards
> and an expand_stack (with mod to fs/exec.c to replace its call to
> expand_stack_downwards by direct call to expand_downwards).

OK, now, with the cleanup patch, we have expand_stack and
expand_stack_{downwards,upwards}. I will repost the patch to Andrew with
up and down cases renamed. Does it work for you?

> But it's always going to be somewhat confusing and asymmetrical
> because of the ia64 register backing store case.

How come? We would have expand_stack which is pretty much clear that it
is expanding stack in the architecture specific way. And then we would
have expand_{upwards,downward} which are clear about way how we expand
whatever VMA, right?
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Michal Hocko
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