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Date:	Tue, 10 May 2011 10:44:10 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	David Sharp <dhsharp@...gle.com>,
	Vaibhav Nagarnaik <vnagarnaik@...gle.com>,
	Michael Rubin <mrubin@...gle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Subject: Re: Fix powerTOP regression with 2.6.39-rc5


* Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com> wrote:

> On
> >>name: sched_switch
> >>ID: 57
> >>format:
> >>	field:unsigned short common_type;	offset:0;	size:2;
> >>	field:unsigned char common_flags;	offset:2;	size:1;
> >>	field:unsigned char common_preempt_count;	offset:3;	size:1;
> >>	field:int common_pid;	offset:4;	size:4;
> >>	field:int common_lock_depth;	offset:8;	size:4;
> >>
> >>	field:char prev_comm[TASK_COMM_LEN];	offset:12;	size:16;
> >>	field:pid_t prev_pid;	offset:28;	size:4;
> >>	field:int prev_prio;	offset:32;	size:4;
> >>	field:long prev_state;	offset:40;	size:8;
> >>	field:char next_comm[TASK_COMM_LEN];	offset:48;	size:16;
> >>	field:pid_t next_pid;	offset:64;	size:4;
> >>	field:int next_prio;	offset:68;	size:4;
> >>
> >>Is equivalent to this:
> >>
> >><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> >><KernelShark><CaptureSettings><Events><CaptureType>Events</CaptureType><System>sched</System></Events><Plugin>function_graph</Plugin><File>/tmp/trace.dat</File></CaptureSettings></KernelShark>
> >I did not say that it's equivalent, i said it's XML look-alike.
> >
> >Steve, we even joked about that, that if we continue like this we'll end up
> >with an XML parser ... I requested several changes to the description format so
> >that it becomes more human readable.
> 
> frankly, for software, XML is easier to deal with than the human
> readable form.

Yes, absolutely - still i think keeping it human readable is important.

> if we are serious about wanting software to parse this stuff.. maybe exposing 
> it in an easy to parse format as well is not a bad idea....

Well, the code to parse it intelligently already exists so i dont think we are 
forced to go back to some harder to read (and easier to parse) format.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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