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Message-ID: <1306409439.28597.81.camel@thorin>
Date:	Thu, 26 May 2011 13:30:39 +0200
From:	Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@...rovitsch.priv.at>
To:	Michael Witten <mfwitten@...il.com>
Cc:	"Ted Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>, Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Richard Yao <ryao@...sunysb.edu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UNIX Compatibility

On Mit, 2011-05-25 at 15:17 +0000, Michael Witten wrote:
[...] 
> What needs to die is the tyranny of the hackers.

The problem with that is, that it is replaced with a tyranny of some
others like marketing folks, sales droids or paper pushers - which is
even worse, especially if the "decision" is a compromise.

Think about why there are so many "bad" standards. Mainly because most
of them (if not all) are a compromise to fit to already existing
implementations of competing vendors ....

Or take the "unlink a directory gives EPERM" example: why is it
specified with an errno that indicates that the user is not allowed to
remove it (and not that the sys-call is the wrong one).

> Humans are capable of organizing themselves better than just acquiscing to
> whomever is capable of imposing himself fastest.

If it's with (self written) good patches, it's a good thing. Imposing
with a (not necessarily self-written) presentation at a meeting is
something completely different ....

Bernd
-- 
Bernd Petrovitsch                  Email : bernd@...rovitsch.priv.at
                     LUGA : http://www.luga.at



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