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Message-ID: <1315383587.11101.18.camel@twins>
Date:	Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:19:47 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
To:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Cc:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@...eler.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty

On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 08:56 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 02:22:22AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > So wtf is ext4 doing? Shouldn't a page stay dirty until its written out?
> > > 
> > > That is, should we really frob around this behaviour or fix ext4 because
> > > its on crack?
> >   Fengguang, could you please verify your findings with recent kernel? I
> > believe ext4 got fixed in this regard some time ago already (and yes, old
> > delalloc writeback code in ext4 was terrible).
> 
> The pattern we do in writeback is:
> 
> in pageout / write_cache_pages:
> 	lock_page();
> 	clear_page_dirty_for_io();
> 
> in ->writepage:
> 	set_page_writeback();
> 	unlock_page();
> 	end_page_writeback();
> 
> So whenever ->writepage decides it doesn't want to write things back
> we have to redirty pages.  We have this happen quite a bit in every
> filesystem, but ext4 hits it a lot more than usual because it refuses
> to write out delalloc pages from plain ->writepage and only allows
> ->writepages to do it.

Ah, right, so it is a fairly common thing and not something easily fixed
in filesystems.

Ok so I guess the patch is good. Thanks!
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