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Message-ID: <20110914154826.GA9942@albatros>
Date:	Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:48:26 +0400
From:	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@...nwall.com>
To:	kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com,
	Dave Hansen <dave@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@...curity.com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Alan Cox <alan@...ux.intel.com>,
	Jesper Juhl <jj@...osbits.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm: restrict access to
 /proc/slabinfo

(cc'ed Dave back, sorry for the noise)

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 19:42 +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 08:18 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 17:16 +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> > > > World readable slabinfo simplifies kernel developers' job of debugging
> > > > kernel bugs (e.g. memleaks), but I believe it does more harm than
> > > > benefits.  For most users 0444 slabinfo is an unreasonable attack vector.
> > > 
> > > Please tell if anybody has complains about the restriction - whether it
> > > forces someone besides kernel developers to do "chmod/chgrp".  But if
> > > someone want to debug the kernel, it shouldn't significantly influence
> > > on common users, especially it shouldn't create security issues. 
> > 
> > Ubuntu ships today with a /etc/init/mounted-proc.conf that does:
> > 
> > 	chmod 0400 "${MOUNTPOINT}"/slabinfo
> > 
> > After cursing Kees's name a few times, I commented it out and it hasn't
> > bothered me again.  
> 
> Another way is chgrp slabinfo to some "admin" group which are privileged
> in this sense and add your user to this group.  But please, sane and
> secure defaults!
> 
> > I expect that the folks that really care about this (and their distros)
> > will probably have a similar mechanism.  I guess the sword cuts both
> > ways in this case: it obviously _works_ to have the distros do it, but
> > it was a one-time inconvenience for me to override that.
> > 
> > In other words, I dunno.  If we do this in the kernel, can we at least
> > do something like CONFIG_INSECURE to both track these kinds of things
> > and make it easy to get them out of a developer's way?
> 
> What do you think about adding your user to the slabinfo's group or
> chmod it - quite the opposite Ubuntu currently does?  I think it is more
> generic (e.g. you may chmod 0444 to allow all users to get debug
> information or just 0440 and chgrp admin to allow only trusted users to
> do it) and your local policy doesn't touch the kernel.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Vasiliy Kulikov
> http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments
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