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Message-ID: <20111025205410.GA7479@kroah.com>
Date:	Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:54:10 +0200
From:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
To:	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Nick Bowler <nbowler@...iptictech.com>,
	Ben Hutchings <ben@...adent.org.uk>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Debian kernel maintainers <debian-kernel@...ts.debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] module,bug: Add TAINT_OOT_MODULE flag for modules not
 built in-tree

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:17:24PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:04:55PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>  > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:51:42PM -0400, Nick Bowler wrote:
>  > > On 2011-10-25 18:05 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>  > > > On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 11:38 -0400, Nick Bowler wrote:
>  > > > > This patch prevents the use of lockdep for debugging out of tree
>  > > > > modules, which is rather mean.
>  > > > 
>  > > > It was already disabled for staging modules, which seems equally
>  > > > unhelpful.
>  > > 
>  > > This is not the case: lockdep works fine with staging modules.
>  > 
>  > Yes, that was fixed a few kernel versions ago.
>  > 
>  > Now you might want to update that fix for the TAINT_OOT_MODULE flag as
>  > well, if you feel it is needed.
> 
> I'm assuming you mean this patch ?
> 
> commit 7816c45bf13255157c00fb8aca86cb64d825e878
> Author: Roland Vossen <rvossen@...adcom.com>
> Date:   Thu Apr 7 11:20:58 2011 +0200
> 
>     modules: Enabled dynamic debugging for staging modules

Hm, this is the patch I was thinking about yes.  But as you point out:

> If we want to support out of tree modules with this, should we just nuke the
> whole check, or do we still want to prevent certain types of tainted kernels
> from using this stuff ?

I don't know, there was some reason we didn't want to run dynamic_debug
for "normal" tainted kernel modules, but I can't recall it at the
moment, sorry.

> 
> (sidenote: it's not immediately obvious to me that this is the right patch,
> as dynamic debug & lockdep are separate things, though this was the only
> thing in kernel/module.c's history this year that sounds similar)

Perhaps the lockdep thing is totally different.  I don't know about that
check.

thanks,

greg k-h
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