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Message-Id: <201112021400.42762.pedro@codesourcery.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:00:42 +0000
From: Pedro Alves <pedro@...esourcery.com>
To: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@...allels.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>,
"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Andrew Vagin <avagin@...nvz.org>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...onical.com>,
Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@...nwall.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc 2/3] fs, proc: Introduce the Children: line in /proc/<pid>/status
On Friday 02 December 2011 13:52:43, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> On 12/02/2011 05:44 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> > On Friday 02 December 2011 13:16:52, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >> On 12/02/2011 04:58 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> >>> On Friday 02 December 2011 12:43:10, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>> Yes, I like /children file. other points seems to be pointed out by other
> >>>>>> reviewers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any reason this is a file instead of a directory like /proc/PID/task/ ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> $ sudo ls /proc/8167/task/
> >>>>> 8167 854 855 856 857 858 859
> >>>>> $ sudo ls /proc/8167/task/855/
> >>>>> attr clear_refs cpuset exe io loginuid mountinfo oom_adj pagemap sched smaps statm wchan
> >>>>> auxv cmdline cwd fd latency maps mounts oom_score personality schedstat stack status
> >>>>> cgroup comm environ fdinfo limits mem numa_maps oom_score_adj root sessionid stat syscall
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Much easier to follow the chain from the command line this way.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you propose to put into these directories? Another directories named with
> >>>> children pid-s?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, just like the task/ dir gives you directories named with the
> >>> processes's thread ids. Opening /proc/PID/children/PID-CHILD1/ would get
> >>> you the same as opening /proc/PID-CHILD1/. Just like
> >>> opening /proc/PID/task/PID-CHILD1/ gets you (almost) the same as opening
> >>> /proc/PID-CHILD1/.
> >>
> >> You cannot make the dentry named /proc/<pid1>/children/<pid2> be a hardlink on
> >> the /proc/<pid2>. Thus you have to make arbitrary amount of inodes to point to
> >> a single task. This brings unnecessary complexity and memory usage (by dentries
> >> and proc inodes).
> >
> > How is this different from the _already existing_ /proc/<pid1>/task/ directory?
>
> Those living in /proc/<pid1>/task do not live in /proc. At all. This explains
> everything below.
Well, except they do, and it doesn't. The're not visible when
listing /proc/, but they're there. Try it.
$ls /proc/ | grep 854
(empty)
$ ls /proc/8167/task/854
attr clear_refs cpuset exe io loginuid mountinfo oom_adj pagemap sched smaps statm wchan
auxv cmdline cwd fd latency maps mounts oom_score personality schedstat stack status
cgroup comm environ fdinfo limits mem numa_maps oom_score_adj root sessionid stat syscall
$ls /proc/854/
attr cgroup comm cwd fd latency maps mounts numa_maps oom_score_adj root sessionid stat syscall
autogroup clear_refs coredump_filter environ fdinfo limits mem mountstats oom_adj pagemap sched smaps statm task
auxv cmdline cpuset exe io loginuid mountinfo net oom_score personality schedstat stack status wchan
--
Pedro Alves
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