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Message-ID: <20120115183726.GA20506@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Date:	Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:37:26 +0100
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Ted Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
	Vincent Pelletier <plr.vincent@...il.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ext4 bug ? "Intel 320 SSD write performance ??? contd."

Hi!

> > Reading this blog post[1], I thought the "2nd iteration" results could be
> > considered a bug in mkfs.ext4 (and possibly any mkfs implementation):
> > shouldn't mkfs run [FI]TRIM on its target before creating filesystem
> > structure ?
> 
> It's not enabled by default, because there are crappy SSD's out there
> where use of the TRIM command will turn them into bricks.  (No, it's
> not the Intel X-25 drives that I'm worried about.)
> 
> So I (and the distributions) don't want to make it the default, since
> if you buy crap drives and then mke2fs turns them into bricks, who are
> you likely to blame?  The crap SSD manufacturer?  Yourself for trying
> to buy SSD's on the cheap?  Or the program that issued the TRIM
> command?

Kernel for allowing userspace damage the hardware?

If there are known-bad drives, we should blacklist them, and kernel
should -EPERM on attempts to trim.

If it is too widespread, we  should probably create a whitelist...
									Pavel
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