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Date:	Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:28:57 +0800
From:	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com>
To:	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@....com>
Cc:	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>, "Rafeal J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>,
	Andiry Xu <andiry.xu@....com>, Alex He <alex.he@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: evaluate _PS3 when entering D3 Cold

On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 13:56 +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 01:27:33PM +0800, Lin Ming wrote:
> > > -		if (device->power.states[state].flags.explicit_set) {
> > > +		/* If state is D3 Cold, try to evaluate _PS3 first */
> > > +		if (state == ACPI_STATE_D3_COLD) {
> > > +			explicit_set = (ps - 1)->flags.explicit_set;
> > > +			object_name[3] -= 1;
> > > +		}
> > 
> > I'm not sure whether this works or not.
> > 
> > From ACPI spec,
> > 
> > _PS3 "is used to put the specific device into its D3hot or D3 state"
> > 
> > D3 neither means D3hot nor D3cold. It's an old term before D3hot and
> > D3cold were introduced.
> I guess D3 has to mean something, right? :-)
> 
> Here is the problem, there is no _PR3 in AMD's implementation, just _PS3.
> And since _S0W evaluates 4, I've to put this device into D3 cold state
> with _PS3.
> 
> And the ACPI does have some words like:
> 
> ------
> Platform/drivers must assume that the device will have power completely
> removed when the device is place into “D3” via _PS3
> ------
> 
> This is in section 7.2.11: _PR3.
> 
> > 
> > Another problem:
> > 
> > With your patch, both D3hot and D3cold will evaluate _PS3, right?
> > 
> Yes.
> 
> > Will it have problem on AMD platform if you try to put ODD into D3hot
> > state? _PS3 is evaluated, so it actually enters D3Cold state.
> 
> There is no D3 hot support for this device(from the firmware's
> perspective), either it is at D0(via _PS0), or it will be at D3 cold(via
> _PS3).

But this is the generic code. We can't only consider some special
device.

Maybe we need some flag to tell which D3 state _PS3 is used for.

Lin Ming

> 
> 
> Thanks for the review.
> 
> -Aaron
> 


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