linux-kernel - Re: [RFC][PATCH] avoid swapping out with swappiness==0

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Message-ID: <4F7ADE1A.2050004@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:25:14 +0200
From:	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@...hat.com>
To:	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
CC:	Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@....com>,
	"jweiner@...hat.com" <jweiner@...hat.com>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"riel@...hat.com" <riel@...hat.com>,
	"lwoodman@...hat.com" <lwoodman@...hat.com>,
	"shaohua.li@...el.com" <shaohua.li@...el.com>,
	"dle-develop@...ts.sourceforge.net" 
	<dle-develop@...ts.sourceforge.net>,
	Seiji Aguchi <seiji.aguchi@....com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] avoid swapping out with swappiness==0

On 04/02/2012 07:10 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> 2012/3/30 Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@....com>:
>> Hello Kosaki-san,
>>
>> On 03/07/2012 01:18 PM, Satoru Moriya wrote:
>>> On 03/07/2012 12:19 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>>>> Thank you. I brought back to memory it. Unfortunately DB folks are
>>>> still mainly using RHEL5 generation distros. At that time,
>>>> swapiness=0 doesn't mean disabling swap.
>>>>
>>>> They want, "don't swap as far as kernel has any file cache page". but
>>>> linux don't have such feature. then they used swappiness for emulate
>>>> it. So, I think this patch clearly make userland harm. Because of, we
>>>> don't have an alternative way.
>>
>> As I wrote in the previous mail(see below), with this patch
>> the kernel begins to swap out when the sum of free pages and
>> filebacked pages reduces less than watermark_high.

Actually, this is true only for global reclaims. Reclaims in cgroup can fail
in this case.

>>
>> So the kernel reclaims pages like following.
>>
>> nr_free + nr_filebacked >= watermark_high: reclaim only filebacked pages
>> nr_free + nr_filebacked <  watermark_high: reclaim only anonymous pages
> 
> How?

get_scan_count() checks that case explicitly:

	if (global_reclaim(sc)) {
		free  = zone_page_state(mz->zone, NR_FREE_PAGES);
		/* If we have very few page cache pages,
		   force-scan anon pages. */
		if (unlikely(file + free <= high_wmark_pages(mz->zone))) {
			fraction[0] = 1;
			fraction[1] = 0;
			denominator = 1;
			goto out;
		}
	}

Regards,
Jerome

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