linux-kernel - Re: [ 00/78] 3.3.2-stable review

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Message-ID: <CAMP44s0OdVBTwVtCoru-xvB=LVtO56jgku7X-0a7mUz1=iVCzw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:18:33 +0300
From:	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>
To:	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@...il.com>
Cc:	Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>,
	Adrian Chadd <adrian@...ebsd.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Sergio Correia <lists@...e.net>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	stable@...r.kernel.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-wireless Mailing List <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>,
	Sujith Manoharan <c_manoha@....qualcomm.com>,
	"ath9k-devel@...ts.ath9k.org" <ath9k-devel@...ema.h4ckr.net>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>
Subject: Re: [ 00/78] 3.3.2-stable review

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@...il.com> wrote:
> Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Stefan Richter wrote:
>
>>> If you do not like to wait for Linus and Greg, you simply have to derive
>>> an own kernel which additionally contains your preferred fixes.
>>
>> Yes, because clearly everybody thinks the process is perfect, and
>> criticizing it is heresy.
>
> Close.  Not everyone.  For example, you do not think the process is
> perfect.

So you think the process is *perfect*? I would have expected
reasonable people to know that nothing is perfect, realize the
sarcasm, and meditate for a second. But it seems expecting somebody to
agree the process is not perfect is too much to ask.

> I don't think Stefan meant the above as tongue-in-cheek, for what it's
> worth.  Another stable kernel with different rules really would be an
> interesting exercise, and would probably fulfill a need for a certain
> audience.
>
> It's not like nobody does that already, anyway.  For example, I hear
> Fedora has a kernel that they maintain well for a different audience,
> using different rules.

Of course, although the difference with the stable kernel would be
very small if the only thing added is an extra rule for acceptance:
"It reverts an earlier
patch to 'stable'."

But "we do this, and if you don't like it you can do whatever you
want" is not a valid argument in favor of the status quo, even though
it's used a lot in open source, and it's true, and there's nothing
wrong with that... I yet have to see an answer to my arguments, and
not a regurgitated answer for something nobody is proposing.

Cheers.

-- 
Felipe Contreras
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