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Date:	Thu, 3 May 2012 13:18:44 -0700
From:	Greg Kroah-Hartmann <greg@...ah.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay@...y.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/3] printk: convert byte-buffer to
 variable-length record buffer

On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 10:11:02PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 13:09 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thing is, with bonkers stuff like usb-console and kms/drm that's a _lot_
> > > of code running under the logbuf/console locks.
> > 
> > The top-level console lock shouldn't be a problem - we use trylock and
> > delay if it is held.
> > 
> > It's the lower-level driver-specific locks that screw us up. And quite
> > frankly, I am *not* willing to say that that is a printk() problem.
> > That is purely a "USB serial console is damn well broken" issue, and
> > should not be considered a limitation of printk.
> 
> I'm happy to call all that broken ;-)

USB serial console was a drunken bet gone wrong.  I'm amazed that it
even works at times, and it should never be considered critical enough
to affect any core kernel code.

greg k-h
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