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Message-ID: <20120507081051.GD16608@gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 7 May 2012 10:10:51 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@....com>
Cc:	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...stprotocols.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] perf ui/gtk: Use struct perf_error_ops


* Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@....com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:31:28 +0300 (EEST), Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> >> Define and use perf_gtk_eops to provide a GTK2 message
> >> dialog for error reporting. To do that, we need global
> >> main_window variable for tracking UI state.
> >> 
> >> Signed-off-by: Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@....com>
> >> diff --git a/tools/perf/ui/gtk/util.c b/tools/perf/ui/gtk/util.c
> >> index a727fe394e91..0d0ed2ed3937 100644
> >> --- a/tools/perf/ui/gtk/util.c
> >> +++ b/tools/perf/ui/gtk/util.c
> >> @@ -2,6 +2,53 @@
> >>  #include "../../util/debug.h"
> >>  #include "gtk.h"
> >>  
> >> +#include <stdio.h>
> >> +#include <string.h>
> >> +#include <stdlib.h>
> >> +
> >> +
> >> +GtkWidget *main_window;
> >> +
> >> +static int message_dialog(const char *title, const char *format, va_list args)
> >> +{
> >> +	char *msg;
> >> +	GtkWidget *dialog;
> >> +	GtkMessageType message_type = GTK_MESSAGE_WARNING;
> >> +
> >> +	if (!main_window || vasprintf(&msg, format, args) < 0) {
> >> +		fprintf(stderr, "%s:\n", title);
> >> +		vfprintf(stderr, format, args);
> >> +		return -1;
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +	if (strcmp(title, "Error") == 0)
> >> +		message_type = GTK_MESSAGE_ERROR;
> >> +
> >> +	dialog = gtk_message_dialog_new_with_markup(GTK_WINDOW(main_window),
> >> +					GTK_DIALOG_DESTROY_WITH_PARENT,
> >> +					message_type,
> >> +					GTK_BUTTONS_CLOSE,
> >> +					"<b>%s</b>\n\n%s", title, msg);
> >> +	gtk_dialog_run(GTK_DIALOG(dialog));
> >> +	gtk_widget_destroy(dialog);
> >> +	free(msg);
> >> +	return 0;
> >> +}
> >
> > I think this is an usability glitch waiting to happen - especially so if 
> > you use it for warnings. There's no reason to require the user to react to 
> > warning messages in the GUI because there's absolutely nothing they can do 
> > about them.
> >
> > I guess we could do something like the "ui helpline" thing used by the 
> > newt front-end if we really wanted to.
> >
> > 			Pekka
> 
> I did quick grep on ui__warning and found that most of its 
> users are trying to show the messages before exiting. I think 
> some (at least) of them can be converted to ui__error(). And 
> as existing implementation (TUI) already requires user input 
> for this, I thought it's ok.
> 
> But I agreed with you that ui__warning should not be used for 
> showing non-critical messages and converted to helpline-style 
> ones.

If they are in essence ui__error() already then please convert 
them to ui__error() instead of perpetuating the mistake - don't 
force annoying pop-ups for warnings that may or may not be 
fatal. Spurious pop-ups are sad and people hate them.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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