linux-kernel - Re: cpuidle future and improvements

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Message-ID: <4FDF255E.3080402@linaro.org>
Date:	Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:55:58 +0200
From:	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
To:	Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@...dia.com>
CC:	Deepthi Dharwar <deepthi@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org" 
	<linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Lists Linaro-dev <linaro-dev@...ts.linaro.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@...aro.org>,
	"lenb@...nel.org" <lenb@...nel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
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	"rjw@...k.pl" <rjw@...k.pl>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@...com>,
	"linux-next@...r.kernel.org" <linux-next@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: cpuidle future and improvements

On 06/18/2012 02:53 PM, Peter De Schrijver wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:35:42PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>> On 06/18/2012 01:54 PM, Deepthi Dharwar wrote:
>>> On 06/18/2012 02:10 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> A few weeks ago, Peter De Schrijver proposed a patch [1] to allow per
>>>> cpu latencies. We had a discussion about this patchset because it
>>>> reverse the modifications Deepthi did some months ago [2] and we may
>>>> want to provide a different implementation.
>>>>
>>>> The Linaro Connect [3] event bring us the opportunity to meet people
>>>> involved in the power management and the cpuidle area for different SoC.
>>>>
>>>> With the Tegra3 and big.LITTLE architecture, making per cpu latencies
>>>> for cpuidle is vital.
>>>>
>>>> Also, the SoC vendors would like to have the ability to tune their cpu
>>>> latencies through the device tree.
>>>>
>>>> We agreed in the following steps:
>>>>
>>>> 1. factor out / cleanup the cpuidle code as much as possible
>>>> 2. better sharing of code amongst SoC idle drivers by moving common bits
>>>> to core code
>>>> 3. make the cpuidle_state structure contain only data
>>>> 4. add a API to register latencies per cpu
>>>
>>> On huge systems especially  servers, doing a cpuidle registration on a
>>> per-cpu basis creates a big overhead.
>>> So global registration was introduced in the first place.
>>>
>>> Why not have it as a configurable option or so ?
>>> Architectures having uniform cpuidle state parameters can continue to
>>> use global registration, else have an api to register latencies per cpu
>>> as proposed. We can definitely work to see the best way to implement it.
>>
>> Absolutely, this is one reason I think adding a function:
>>
>> cpuidle_register_latencies(int cpu, struct cpuidle_latencies);
>>
>> makes sense if it is used only for cpus with different latencies.
>> The other architecture will be kept untouched.
>>
>> IMHO, before adding more functionalities to cpuidle, we should cleanup
>> and consolidate the code. For example, there is a dependency between
>> acpi_idle and intel_idle which can be resolved with the notifiers, or
>> there is intel specific code in cpuidle.c and cpuidle.h, cpu_relax is
>> also introduced to cpuidle which is related to x86 not the cpuidle core,
>> etc ...
>>
>> Cleanup the code will help to move the different bits from the arch
>> specific code to the core code and reduce the impact of the core's
>> modifications. That should let a common pattern to emerge and will
>> facilitate the modifications in the future (per cpu latencies is one of
>> them).
>>
>> That will be a lot of changes and this is why I proposed to put in place
>> a cpuidle-next tree in order to consolidate all the cpuidle
>> modifications people is willing to see upstream and provide better testing.
> 
> Sounds like a good idea. Do you have something like that already?

Yes but I need to cleanup the tree before.

http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/dlezcano/linux-next.git;a=summary

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