linux-kernel - Re: cpuidle future and improvements

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Date:	Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:53:27 +0300
From:	Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@...dia.com>
To:	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
CC:	Deepthi Dharwar <deepthi@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org" 
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	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@...aro.org>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Colin Cross <ccross@...roid.com>, Rob Lee <rob.lee@...aro.org>,
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Subject: Re: cpuidle future and improvements

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:35:42PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 06/18/2012 01:54 PM, Deepthi Dharwar wrote:
> > On 06/18/2012 02:10 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> A few weeks ago, Peter De Schrijver proposed a patch [1] to allow per
> >> cpu latencies. We had a discussion about this patchset because it
> >> reverse the modifications Deepthi did some months ago [2] and we may
> >> want to provide a different implementation.
> >>
> >> The Linaro Connect [3] event bring us the opportunity to meet people
> >> involved in the power management and the cpuidle area for different SoC.
> >>
> >> With the Tegra3 and big.LITTLE architecture, making per cpu latencies
> >> for cpuidle is vital.
> >>
> >> Also, the SoC vendors would like to have the ability to tune their cpu
> >> latencies through the device tree.
> >>
> >> We agreed in the following steps:
> >>
> >> 1. factor out / cleanup the cpuidle code as much as possible
> >> 2. better sharing of code amongst SoC idle drivers by moving common bits
> >> to core code
> >> 3. make the cpuidle_state structure contain only data
> >> 4. add a API to register latencies per cpu
> > 
> > On huge systems especially  servers, doing a cpuidle registration on a
> > per-cpu basis creates a big overhead.
> > So global registration was introduced in the first place.
> > 
> > Why not have it as a configurable option or so ?
> > Architectures having uniform cpuidle state parameters can continue to
> > use global registration, else have an api to register latencies per cpu
> > as proposed. We can definitely work to see the best way to implement it.
> 
> Absolutely, this is one reason I think adding a function:
> 
> cpuidle_register_latencies(int cpu, struct cpuidle_latencies);
> 
> makes sense if it is used only for cpus with different latencies.
> The other architecture will be kept untouched.
> 
> IMHO, before adding more functionalities to cpuidle, we should cleanup
> and consolidate the code. For example, there is a dependency between
> acpi_idle and intel_idle which can be resolved with the notifiers, or
> there is intel specific code in cpuidle.c and cpuidle.h, cpu_relax is
> also introduced to cpuidle which is related to x86 not the cpuidle core,
> etc ...
> 
> Cleanup the code will help to move the different bits from the arch
> specific code to the core code and reduce the impact of the core's
> modifications. That should let a common pattern to emerge and will
> facilitate the modifications in the future (per cpu latencies is one of
> them).
> 
> That will be a lot of changes and this is why I proposed to put in place
> a cpuidle-next tree in order to consolidate all the cpuidle
> modifications people is willing to see upstream and provide better testing.

Sounds like a good idea. Do you have something like that already?

Thanks,

Peter.
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