linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 00/36] AArch64 Linux kernel port

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Message-ID: <20120711082018.GB17713@gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:20:18 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/36] AArch64 Linux kernel port


* Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> wrote:

> > Do you really think that all of the 32-bit ARM code should 
> > essentially be thrown away when going to 64-bit ARM, that 
> > patches can only touch arch/arm64/ + drivers/ or the 
> > highway?
> 
> Yes.

Straight answer ;-)

> If you're curious, please have a look at 
> arch/arm/mach-spear13xx/. this is the latest platform that we 
> have added. [...]

Very nice.

> [...] It's fully functional (except PCI, which I hope will be 
> added in drivers/pci/bus, which is another story), A 
> significant portion of that platform deals with SMP support, 
> which is being standardized for AArch64, so there will be only 
> one implementation. Another big portion is DMA-engine support, 
> which is moving out of arch/arm as soon as we have a proper DT 
> binding. Finally there are some boilerplate header files that 
> are going away too.
> 
> Once we're done with this, we will basically need zero code in 
> arch/*/ to support a new platform, and that is very easy to 
> share between two distinct arch/* directories ;-)

Ok, arch specific platform code going away completely is a valid 
solution - if you can pull that off for all new hardware then 
arch/arm64/ might actually work.

The life time of ARM hw is also a lot shorter than on x86. Plus, 
given that Apple and MS keeps Linux away from their hardware 
cryptographically we only have to deal with hw makers who 
specifically *want* Linux support. A lot of the maintenance pain 
on x86 comes from the fact that Linux support on a lot of PC 
hardware is incidental, from the hw maker's POV.

Ok, sounds like a valid plan. Just fix the name please :-)

Thanks,

	Ingo
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