linux-kernel - Re: Complaint - pid-owner Support Removed (CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH

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Message-ID: <62567.1343784009@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date:	Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:20:09 -0400
From:	valdis.kletnieks@...edu
To:	NeilBrown <neilb@...e.de>
Cc:	"C. Schmid" <christian.schmid81@....de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Complaint - pid-owner Support Removed (CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_MATCH_OWNER)

On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:41:21 +1000, NeilBrown said:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:22:10 +0200 "C. Schmid" <christian.schmid81@....de> wrote:
> > i want to complain about the removal of the --pid-owner Support for iptables.
> > As far as i understand it this support was just removed without replacement.
>
> Yes, 7 years ago.

> "Unfixably broken"

Even *before* it was removed, it declared itself "broken on SMP" (which is a
good hint on exactly *why* it was unfixable), and why it's not applicable to
most modern desktop systems anyhow - even an iPad is a dual-core.

And to be honest, the "Linux only cares about big iron not the desktop" is a
total red herring - if anything, many laptops *are* essentially a single-user
environment, while big iron boxes are even *more* concerned about per-user
issues.  I just checked one of the compute clusters across the hall, 1100+
actual users defined.  How often do desktops/laptops have that many real live
users?

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