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Message-ID: <87628bjvwb.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp>
Date:	Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:14:28 +0900
From:	OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@...l.parknet.co.jp>
To:	Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@...il.com>
Cc:	Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@...il.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@...sung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] fat: fix ESTALE errors

Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@...il.com> writes:

>> (I assume this issue == orphaned inode issue).
>>
>> ext* doesn't have this issue. If ext* made orphaned inode, ext* doesn't
>> delete inode from inode table until calling iput() from last referencer.
>>
>> In FAT case, FAT inode is embedded into dir entry. So, if unlinked inode
>> (then orphaned inode is detached (fat_detach())), FAT deletes inode (dir
>> entry) from dir.
>
> Could be possible to not delete it?

It should be deletable on linux. Because many apps are assuming
orphaned inode works.

> I mean using a special value for this case, mark delete (using 0xe5 as
> first character) but put for instance creation month to be egal to 15.
>
> This entry will be therefore be keep and not overwritten by successive
> file creation.
>
> At least this solve the file deleted issue (not the rename issue unfortunatly)

I assume you are saying to prevent creation somehow, not deletion. Yes, it
is possible though, it would give additional overhead and complexity to us.

Thanks.
-- 
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@...l.parknet.co.jp>
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