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Message-ID: <CAGXu5jKvg9Dhu-PLCZkPazSTFSngg5nzU6Ss4CZ2qaHZ7rugXA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:19:34 -0700
From:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:	Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...onical.com>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@...cle.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] module: add syscall to load module from fd

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 09:45 +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
>> Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> writes:
>> > Instead of (or in addition to) kernel module signing, being able to reason
>> > about the origin of a kernel module would be valuable in situations
>> > where an OS already trusts a specific file system, file, etc, due to
>> > things like security labels or an existing root of trust to a partition
>> > through things like dm-verity.
>> >
>> > This introduces a new syscall (currently only on x86), similar to
>> > init_module, that has only two arguments. The first argument is used as
>> > a file descriptor to the module and the second argument is a pointer to
>> > the NULL terminated string of module arguments.
>>
>> Thanks.  Minor comments follow:
>
> Rusty, sorry for bringing this up again, but with Kees' new syscall,
> which passes in the file descriptor, appraising the integrity of kernel
> modules could be like appraising the integrity of any other file on the
> filesystem.  All that would be needed is a new security hook, which is
> needed in anycase for IMA measurement.

The second patch in this series provides such a hook.

> [...]
> This method is a consistent and extensible approach to verifying the
> integrity of file data/metadata, including kernel modules. The only
> downside to this approach, I think, is that it requires changes to the
> userspace tool.

I'm fine with this -- it's an expected change that I'll pursue with
glibc, kmod, etc. Without the userspace changes, nothing will use the
new syscall. :) I've already got kmod (and older module-init-tools)
patched to do this locally.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS Security
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