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Message-ID: <5053186E.6000302@gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 14 Sep 2012 05:43:42 -0600
From:	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
CC:	acme@...stprotocols.net, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	peterz@...radead.org, Robert Richter <robert.richter@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3 v2] perf tool: give user better message if precise
 is not supported

On 9/14/12 5:36 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> Well, then that is useful information we *lost*, and that
> situation needs to be improved on the ABI side: an expanded
> error code present in the event structure, copied back to
> user-space on errors, or so.
>
> (Alternatively, a special event channel just to pass back
> expanded error conditions.)
>
> Computers are supposed to make life easier for humans, by
> answering such "what did go wrong?" questions. Our losing of
> precise error conditions is a usability bug really - and in the
> perf project we are in a unique position to be able to improve
> both the kernel side code and make immediate use of it on the
> tooling side as well.

Understood and there have been suggestions on how to definitely state 
what the kernel side did not like. I like Peter's last suggestion -- 
something along the lines of clearing attr on a failure except the 
offending setting.

David
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